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CAC ON A NEWELL
Just wanted to show some differences of the Newell vs a Prevost…..
the seam is totally split and there are none available so it must be repaired…
You have to pull the bumper and pull from the rear of the coach probably double the labor of a Prevost
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Pretty yellow engine. Driver gets to legitimately wear a CAT hat. That is about the only advantage I see in a Newell over a Prevost.
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You can see that the weld didnt even come close to being centered on the seam. In some places it wasn’t even covering the seam. This means that CAC was leaking from the factory or very soon after being driven off the lot.
On top of the bad weld in the picture, there is another weld on one of the mounts that failed.
The up side is that this should be an easy repair for any capable welder. Wont take much to make it better then new. The other side of the CAC looks to be run pretty well on the center of the seam. Shouldnt take more then a couple hours of cleaning up the metal, running a new weld, testing it and then painting it.
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No thanks, I’ll keep my Prevost. No parts available, what’s up with that…
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Dont even talk to me about no parts available from prevost 🙁
They are on strike 2, Monday morning they have the opprotunity for strike 3. Only problem is, there is no other game in town for some items.
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Assuming Prevost is short on parts and there are lead time issues, for us it is an inconvenience. For seated coaches and entertainer coaches it is the difference between profit and loss. A revenue producing coach, sitting in a yard awaiting parts is an almost certain future lost customer.
I hope Volvo is not pulling strings to free up cash by reducing inventory levels. We will be the first and most affected because unlike revenue coaches which are worn out and removed from service far earlier than ours, we have coaches of an age almost never still found on the road with paying customers.
2025 Marathon H3 / 4th Prevost
21 Ram 1500 EcoDiesel 4x4 -
I’m waiting for a couple items that have been back ordered for well over a month.
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How would you like to have been a Newell owner during the financial slowdown when Newell sold out its inventory of coaches at $ 999,000 and then stopped producing?
I have had both types and will stick with Prevost.
Pres
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Pres … any idea how many coaches they had built for inventory? As many of the forum members have been in business, building essentially custom items for “inventory” is both risky and rewarding.
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Pres,
Not sure where or when the production stoppage occurrred. Maybe you can clarify. Newell, like all Prevost convertors, reduced production during the economic downturn. They continued to produce ordered coaches and are now back to 26 coaches a year.
Production by year:
2008-36 coaches
2009-40 coaches
2010-18 coaches
2011-22 coaches
2012-23 coaches
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The economic downturn hit everybody very hard with some Prevost converters not producing, some closing their doors and others producing far less than normal.
That downturn saw the value of every coach plummet and some coaches that were repos dumped into the market at prices that were unheard of.
As far a the topic which was to compare CAC replacement with that of a Prevost, I don’t think Prevost has much to be proud of. A far better CAC could have been used making premature CAC replacement unnecessary, but instead used one that was know to be of lesser quality in place of one with a demonstrated long life and higher quality. Perhaps the comparison should be between Prevost CAC replacement time compared to what it would have been if they used the better quality CAC.
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Are guys have it down to fours hours on a Prevost to replace a CAC , it’s donkey work!!!!!
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They must have a secret, Peter. Changing the CAC is not a big deal, but it is all the related little things that have to be done that take the time. From the time spent draining and refilling the coolant, to removing a gazillion screws around the panel in the wheel well and around the seals, to pulling the radiator CAC assembly, to fighting in a little space to get the CAC hoses on the CAC plus replacing all the others, etc. Maybe two guys working at the same time can do it in 4 hours, but it is amazing how much time is eaten up with all the little tasks.
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Two guys Jon to do it in four hours or so sometimes 4 1/2 hours
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