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brakes for toad
Does anyone have a Blue Ox Patriot Brake system for sale?
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I have an Air Force one for sale. New, sealed box. Ended up going with ready-brake.
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Is the Air Force One the best one on the market?
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M&G is the best on the market but they don’t have a system for all cars. Check with them. If not, Air Force 1 would be my #2 choice. We installed the M&G version of the Air Force 1 on our new Jeep and it appears to work very well.
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I have a M&G on my Excursion. Truthfully I wonder how well they work. If you try to stop the car without the engine running you barely slow it down. The MG has a air cylinder attached to the Brake master cylinder. Without the engine running how is this any different than putting on the brake pedal?
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Unless a toad is extremely light and does not need a power assist, almost any car of today has power brakes. Without the toad engine running a brake pedal needs a lot of force to drag the toad to a stop.
The extent the supplemental braking systems work is dependent upon their design. AF-1 for example works effectively because it uses the bus air system to not only apply the brake pedal, but to maintain a vacuum on the toad brake system, keeping the power brake feature operational, thus reducing brake pedal effort.
Each system available has to be evaluated relative to the toad being used. AF-1, again as an example cannot and will not provide boost to certain vehicles such as an H2 Hummer or a Ram 2500 pickup because those brake systems get boost from the hydraulic power steering system and there is no way to provide that brake boost as AF-1 is designed. So those vehicles need a brake supplement that can apply sufficient brake pedal pressure to assist in braking.
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Although some states require tow vehicle supplemental braking, I have never used them or seen the need for them. IMO These Busses should be able to handle an additional 10%-15% weight for the Toad. I take it easy when I drive, i don’t really see any change pulling or braking.
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Using a Blue Ox Patriot. It seems to work but it is a pain.
A bulky unit that must be put in place while towing then stored when not. Would have preferred an Air Force one as that would mount under a seat but the installer was not familiar with them.
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I have a Blue Ox but don’t know a thing about it. Came with my new camper. If somebody wants to try it,,, Holler. Will post pics later.
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AIR FORCE ONE all the way here.
As John described, this is a very effective braking system that utilizes the braking system of your toad as the manufacturer designed. I’m not the biggest rules follower in the world, but I personally would not consider pulling a toad without a supplemental braking system….law or not! Yes, the addition of a 6500lb Ford F-150 is a marginal addition to the overall weight of a coach, but I’m more concerned about the towing capacity of my hitch parts for this issue.
Also provides breakaway braking in case of a catastrophic failure of the tow bar system. That alone is worth it to me…….
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PUT A BRAKING SYSTEM ON YOUR TOAD! It really does not matter if you think it’s necessary or not, but if you get in an accident and one was required by the State you will automatically lose and be sued!
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