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  • Larry & Diane

    Member
    December 16, 2017 at 7:28 pm

    The best defense against being rear ended it to allow a lot of room in front of your vehicle. That way you will be able to come to leisurely stops and if the jackass that is tailgating behind you doesn’t have to jam on his brakes because you do you have avoided a problem. When I think someone is inattentive and tailgating I make my brake lights come on early, slow down gradually and if necessary or able just change lanes to avoid the moron.

    A tailgater is one thing and being involved in a rear end collision is another. In either case, having a collision avoidance braking system could be the difference between a fender bender and being involved in a life altering tragic accident. Sadly, no matter how cautiously we operate our vehicles, accidents do happen. Having assistance that can react faster than we can, at least in my book, is a good thing for all drivers.

    While this thread has strayed far from the original topic, I’ll add that the Prevost Aware system is a wonderful feature and assists in keeping the bus tracking at a safe distance from the vehicle ahead. So, the next time you’re in a caravan you might have a sense of comfort if the driver behind you is using the Aware system.

  • Andy

    Member
    December 17, 2017 at 7:00 am

    If it is true to form, the person with the system you describe will spend more time on his phone because his vehicle will be watching out for him.

    I know for sure there are people who caravan with others and the lead coach sets the speed. The one following sets the cruise control a couple of miles more than that speed and lets the bus maintain the spacing.

    Those people are the very morons that I have to share the road with.

  • Roscoeapproved

    Member
    December 18, 2017 at 6:19 am

    In this day also then when the system fails that should of detected and slowed your vehicle people will sue the manufacture or installer for their poor driving….Example of this mentality is HD satellites can be hooked up to stow with ignition key on, well people don’t check that this actually happened. So now the satellite manufacture quit selling the cable to auto stow because people wanting warranty when it failed to stow for whatever reason and they ruined their dish…..Technology has a lot of good things however it also has a lot of things that are taking away from us….


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    91 Marathon XL
  • Archived

    Member
    December 18, 2017 at 6:57 am

    “Aware system is a wonderful feature and assists in keeping the bus tracking at a safe distance from the vehicle ahead.”

    I just reread that and unless you used a poor choice of words it says you are already allowing a feature to relieve you from part of the responsibility of driving. I would think it would be a badge of honor to never have the system engage. As drivers (not steering wheel holders) it is up to us to maintain safe distances and also to anticipate. If I were to identify a good driver one important attribute would be the ability to anticipate what the other guy is going to do and to take steps if needed to avoid conflict.

  • Andy

    Member
    December 18, 2017 at 7:06 am

    Clearly I am afraid of technology. Part of the reason is strongly related to my fears of losing skill when I was flying. Because of that fear I hand flew a lot of my flight, and allowed the autopilot to only fly 3 instrument approaches for me in over 35 years of flying. By almost always hand flying the critical phases of my flights I stayed proficient and was never concerned about if i would be skillful enough if the autopilot failed.

    The same attitude applies to depending on the technology that will allow a vehicle to self drive. We are now seeing the erosion of pilot skills as the current group of pilots has only experienced highly automated planes. Safety went way up when the new technology was introduced because the pilots that first used the planes that had features such as auto-land were used to hand flying planes in all conditions. Now the pilots have lost the skills and there are many examples of how planes crash when the systems shut down and the pilots lack the skills to handle a perfectly good airplane.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/airasia-plane-crash/airasia-crash-report-blames-computer-failure-pilot-response-n471831

  • Tim

    Member
    December 18, 2017 at 9:20 am

    “Aware system is a wonderful feature and assists in keeping the bus tracking at a safe distance from the vehicle ahead.”

    I just reread that and unless you used a poor choice of words it says you are already allowing a feature to relieve you from part of the responsibility of driving. I would think it would be a badge of honor to never have the system engage. As drivers (not steering wheel holders) it is up to us to maintain safe distances and also to anticipate. If I were to identify a good driver one important attribute would be the ability to anticipate what the other guy is going to do and to take steps if needed to avoid conflict.

    It wasn’t a poor choice of words and I’ll stand by them. Wasn’t it you who at one point stated that you were in a caravan and the bus behind you was following too close for your comfort? If memory serves me correctly, if you had to stop suddenly, you had concerns of being rear ended due to that driver not being able to stop. As stated in a previous thread, I’ll ask that wouldn’t you have a sense of comfort knowing that should something happen to the driver of the vehicle behind you, there’s a very good chance a collision would be avoided? Suppose a health issue occurred, wouldn’t these types of systems minimize the change or severity of a collision?

    Yes, it would be a “badge of honor” to never be involved in an accident. But for the most part, accidents are not intentional…that’s why they are called accidents and the people behind the wheel are human and humans make mistakes. Personally, I find systems such as the Aware an excellent method of making sure a safe distance is buffered between me and the vehicle ahead. If I was shopping for another bus today, I would consider it a necessary feature.

    I also feel there should be mandatory training and testing for recreational motorhome purchasers. But in most States, all that’s needed is a standard driver’s license. Hmmm? Why isn’t anyone lobbying for that? I guess we can follow the money for that answer.

    With that said, doesn’t this make the incorporation of safety features on motorhomes even more important?

  • Andy

    Member
    December 18, 2017 at 1:13 pm

    No. I said a driver I know caravans by setting his cruise a couple of miles per hour more than the lead coach cruise is set and lets the adaptive braking maintain the spacing.

    If someone tailgates me it will not be long before they pass because I will slow down enough to make them want to pass. I have enough issues with the morons in front of me and I don’t want to be driving my coach by looking in the mirrors.

    We are going to disagree because I guarantee self driving cars will do to driver skills what plane systems have done to pilots.

    A lot of drivers are really bad now. And it is getting worse because of the technology you are embracing.

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