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365’s ??
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I have been VERY HAPPY with my 315 Toyo tires I got a couple years ago. Was much less then Michelin even with their discount. Oh and they were available that day and date codes where within 6 months.
Wont help on the 365 tires, but a good option for the 315 folks.
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What kind of changes were made to the new 315’s ?
SQUEAKY Wheel get the grease is what I have always heard.
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Not sure that I really see any difference, they are X Line Energy… date of 2917
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I have so far been unable to find the specs on all Goodyear 385 size tires but according to Bill Jensen their application is typically for harsh service and they have a hard ride and are speed limited. Our Michelin 365 tires are designed for a better ride and a 75 MPH speed limit.
According to Bill another coach manufacturer is now using 365’s as original equipment and that my be part of the issue affecting availability. The good news is the more users of that size tire the greater the probability availability will get better. In the meantime Steve Smith of Tire Distributors is working his way towards getting people at Michelin to understand the scope of the problem.
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Prevost, MCI, and Newell, Newmar, that I know of, who else Jon?
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You can add Foretravel to that list.
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Van Hool. Does anyone know if MCI is using 365’s?
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Yes they are. Three posts before here. Just had our coach at Arrow Stages, and looked over their lot and saw MCI J 4500’s have 365’s
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Add the Entegra Cornerstone to the 365 list.
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The more we learn the more uses there are for 365 tires which means one of two things to me. It means Michelin has them but when the inventory runs low only special customers will get access to them, or Michelin is inept and cannot manage their production based on forecasts.
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With more and more coaches using them, maybe there will be enough demand to entice a second manufacturer to make them.
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I used to work at Michelin at the headquarters. Too bad we cannot get BF Goodrich to produce these. Being a Michelin company, they would be comparable in every way.
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I don’t have a horse in this race.
But … if more and more coach manufacturers are using 365’s on their units, wouldn’t you think that the premier manufacturer would ramp up their production and/or carry a larger inventory? Unless they underestimated demand.
Does Michelin makes their coach tires domestically? I’d presume Michelin has only a limited number of tire making machines that can make only Y tires per hour and they have to balance the types and sizes of tires they produce with demand expectation and inventory targets. Its likely that right now they don’t have excess manufacturing capacity. Its also possible that Michelin can’t attract enough skilled and semi-skilled workers to add additional shifts … of of which leads to shortages of some products.
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Michelin makes their tires globally. Jeff showed me the country of origin on several tires he had and some of the same size were produced in the US and France.
1984 96" with 8V92TA
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The problem of no inventory is not new. This has occurred with Michelin as far back as I can remember. One time we ordered a batch of 50 tractors from International with Michelin tires. International did not have any to put on when they were produced, and could not get them in time so they substituted Goodyears. Our tire supplier was able to get Michelins somehow and they switched out all the Goodyears as soon as the trucks arrived at our shop. Lots of work, but they did not want us to be stuck with Goodyears. This was probably back in the 1980’s some time if I remember right.
In any event, we only ran Michelin and had really good luck with them…better than anything else we tried. I know it is a PITA when they are not available, and with all the computer inventory tracking, there really is no reason for it.
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