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  • Archived

    Member
    May 9, 2017 at 4:20 pm

    Harry, that is exactly what I am saying and the fact you seem unaware of how to manipulate your suspension system and when to do that is why I am sure you never got even a small bit of training from the seller.

    Learning the coach when you are getting ready to bring it home is like drinking from a fire hose. Despite 22 years of being a Liberty owner and doing almost all my own work on my coaches, when I picked up my current coach I spent two days at Liberty inspecting and learning and I am still learning. My point is I don’t think the previous owner was able to give you anywhere near enough information to get you comfortable with the coach or systems.

  • Archived

    Member
    May 9, 2017 at 4:42 pm


    You’re right Jon but I take responsibility as well. I thought I was a lot more ready for all the information than I was. There was sooooo much to take in and I may not have been the best student!

  • Tim

    Member
    May 9, 2017 at 6:22 pm

    Had to air mine up with toggle/buttons (front) when mine wouldn’t come up to ride height many years ago to get it to Fort Worth Prevost, 250 miles north.

  • Harry

    Member
    May 9, 2017 at 6:34 pm

    Hey H.J. We’re learning this together. I only have a one month head start on you!

    During my shopping process, I spent some time with an Entertainer converter and during a test drive I was told they instruct their drivers to lift the tag on the X3 VIP’s every time they take a 90-degree turn.

  • Bill

    Member
    May 10, 2017 at 4:30 am

    Why?

  • John

    Member
    May 10, 2017 at 5:52 am

    Raise mine every now and then to to make sure that it works. Other than that , never.

  • Archived

    Member
    May 10, 2017 at 6:01 am

    I also raise mine when executing a very tight turn, like backing in a campsite. I was advised at both the Dallas & Jacksonville service shops that commercial drivers do this all the time.

    Why … Two reasons: Shorter turning radius & avoid “skidding” the tag axles.

  • Archived

    Member
    May 10, 2017 at 7:18 am

    Tag liift….Commercial and entertainer buses are lighter than a motorhome and will lift the tag quicker…Therefore they lift it…..I suggest never lifting when backing up…..from mudflaps being damaged to much worse….Never lift if pulling a trailer….Very rarely do we need to as we can out turn every other motorhome out there without…It takes typically several minutes to effectively lift tag on MOST motorhome conversions….

  • Archived

    Member
    May 10, 2017 at 8:40 am

    Just adding to the discussion here… not picking sides nor in anyway disputing what Jeff and others are saying.

    At both Marathon service facilities I have visited, they always lifted the tag when making sharp movements with the coach.

    I notice a big differnce on skiding when I lift mine so I do it pretty often when going in and out of my garage. I have never seen the tag actually come off the ground but it appears to take enough weight off of them that skids marks are not left.

    just my two cents worth

  • Shelby & Barbara

    Member
    May 10, 2017 at 9:06 am

    I lift (unload) the tag in tight turns, so there.

  • Archived

    Member
    May 10, 2017 at 10:40 am

    If your coach had slides you wouldn’t have to. So there……..

  • Roy

    Member
    May 11, 2017 at 8:04 pm

    I’m a lifter 🙂

  • Archived

    Member
    May 11, 2017 at 10:54 pm

    I’am a lifter…so there

    so how many owners grease the zerk fitting on the tag lift ?

  • Archived

    Member
    May 12, 2017 at 7:22 am

    while greasing the zerk fitting I noticed that the grutinator valve was loose. Than I had to get my swench wrench out and titen it up. Always fun working on the bus.

  • Jerry

    Member
    May 12, 2017 at 12:07 pm

    I also will lift the tag for a tight turn, and my tag wheels do actually lift off the ground an inch or two.

    Re the zerk fittings on the tag, when I had the wheels off to replace the airbags last month, I noticed the zerks on the bell cranks were crying out for attention so I took care of that with my new electric DeWalt grease gun.

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