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  • Archived

    Member
    November 24, 2013 at 8:00 am

    Don’t know the heating element data, all I know from experience is having 3 heat exchangers putting out heat is much better than any kick heater I have had.

    I only have one kick heater and all it does is warm your feet in front of the shower and make noise.

  • Archived

    Member
    November 24, 2013 at 11:25 am

    Bottom line…….No matter what we have, Webasto or Aquahot, when it gets cold we are using diesel.

  • Dick

    Member
    November 8, 2014 at 11:03 pm

    I started to winterize the coach, dumped the water and was going to blow out the system with air tomorrow. Then I planned to run anti freeze throughout but realized I do not have bypass valves on the 2 hot water heaters. So now I need to know how to handle not running 20 gallons of anit freeze into the water heaters. Also, if the water heaters are drained and the webasto is run or the coach driven, will that negatively affect the water heaters?

    One other item I need input on I have a leak around the water pump on the motor. It looks like it is either the seal around the water pump or the drain valve on the pump. Is anyone familiar with this type of problem and if so what is the best solution? Have had two mechanics tell me to use some form of stop leak.

  • Jim

    Member
    November 9, 2014 at 6:40 am

    Find different mechanics.

    Leaks have to be repaired. New fittings, new seals, or even a new pump. Not stop leak.

    As to draining a coach to winterize it you may find an alternative. I drained my first coach to protect it when we lived in the snow belt of western NY. It was a complex process to say the least because by the time I got done I was still uncomfortable because of all the potential places water can be trapped.

    The ice maker, the washer, all the P traps in the drains, HW tank, pump, all water lines, etc. Bottom line was I think I drained and protected everything but was not completely sure. So when we got it filled and ready for the next trip we never again attempted to winterize it. Instead we protected it against freezing, and for more than 10 years exposed to temps that got as low as -26F I never had an issue.

    The bus was kept protected from the wind in a barn. It had power to it. I filled the water tank. I put a 500W cube heater in the water bay and aimed it at the water tank. That 100 plus gallons of water was a huge heat sink that kept the water bay warm when the cube heater just did not have enough output to do the job. The bay temps never got below 40.

    In the house I used a three setting electric heater with an oscillating fan. I opened all cabinet doors where there was plumbing. I used all three settings depending on how cold it was, but the bottom line is even on the coldest days the coach interior never driopped below 45.

    I was able to check on the coach daily so I was always able to use the coach heating systems if one of my heaters failed or it got too cold. It never did.

  • Dick

    Member
    November 9, 2014 at 7:30 am

    Moe,

    Do you have power to the bus while stored? That will help with the answers.

  • Michael

    Member
    November 9, 2014 at 8:25 am

    Thanks Jon. I am looking for a good mechanic (I think I found a good Doctor) and I will be at Arrow Bus Lines tomorrow. The service mgr said that they had time to look at it and do any repairss necessary. I took it to the Detroit Diesel folks at Interstate Power Systems and they quoted me about $17500 to replace the water pump. Then one of the mechanics said I could try stop leak.

  • Jerry

    Member
    November 9, 2014 at 8:33 am

    I don’t have a barn to protect from weather. I do have a 30 amp line going to the bus. Last year I used heaters as Jon mentioned in the bay and inside the coach and used the Wabasto when it got real cold. With water in the hot water heaters, I could use those for heat also if real cold temps. Looks like a repeat of last year.

  • Tully

    Member
    November 9, 2014 at 10:58 am

    I think you are better off doing what you did last year unless you have a lot of confidence you can get the water out of all the low spots in piping, out of appliances, etc. RV anti freeze is a possible solution but I cannot imagine the gyrations you have to go through to run it through the washer or ice maker or RO unit, etc. all of which will hold water. Blowing air through them is no less of a challenge.

    So I moved. My garage which is normally unheated in even the coldest weather stays well above freezing and when it is supposed to get single digit temps, I just turn on the furnace to 45 degrees. I’m happy, the bus is happy, and not issues with freezing.

    Moving was a little more of an issue than just trying to keep the bus from freezing however.

  • Archived

    Member
    November 11, 2014 at 10:14 pm

    got it done. Repeat of last year. Heaters in place and so is the weather.

    Thanks to all for the input.

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