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Sewer Bugs
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There are many home grown remedies for these critters. The experts will advise to treat the system with an enzyme to remove any food source, this is great in theory but not so much in reality. There are chemicals that stop the reporduction of these thru sterliization(Gentrol is one) , however this method is somewhat more effective it takes time and patience. These crittters reproduce faster than rabbits and in large quantities. The survival rate of the larve is very small, but due to the numbers the investation grows pretty rapidly. When you see them leaving the sewer/septic system they have finished their reproductive duties and are at the end of their life cycle, which is approx 21 days. Commercial pesticides work as well, but it takes a lot of re applications as they do not get the larve.
These things are more likely to show up in a septic system than a sewer system. They like any dark damp space.
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Per is correct, with our microphor toilet, the toilet drops straight down into the black water holding. The sewer bugs are in the campground sewers. I discovered the bugs when a bug flew up & out during a flush cycle. The flushes after that had a few more fly up. The sewer system at Ft Belvoir campground is only 4 years old & it now has the little buggers.
The way they get in the bus is via the sewer drain. When I dump, they sneak up past the manual drain valve. The then feast in the tank.
Here is what I have done so far: As I noted earlier, I have a Ecological flying bug spray. I spray that in the toilet drain each flush. I also added calgon water softener to help break up deposits. Less food may equal less bugs. I shall not drain the tank until full. Driving south to Richmond this weekend will help stir the tank with the calgon.
When I do dump, it’s grey first, black second. Closing the valves as soon as it empties. Grey and black remain closed. I also am adding the vinegar to the tank. If that does not help, rid ex has a additive to put into RV black tanks. The enzymes will eat the deposits .
As as of today, the bugs are under control. Using the spray has helped. I have not had the bugs since using. Knock on wood. I’ll use this method unless another successful way is found.
As as for the grey tank. No bugs have come thru any drains. I suspect the soaps and water not having solids in it have made the grey tank not a unfriendly place for the breeding of ’em.
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I’m curious as to your reasoning in dumping the gray first? I always dump black first, then the gray.
Kirby
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Me too, never heard of dumping the black last.
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We dump black and grey at the same time. The rose petals flutter around the water bay.
MM.
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Howdy Chip,
Dump your black first and follow it with dumping the grey tank.
I do not dump unless I am close to full. I end up dumping my grey two or three times for every one black dump.
Do not leave your dump valves open. Only open them when you dump. Black, then grey.
I have used a holding tank treatment product called Happy Camper for a very long time with great results. Here is their web address – http://1-happycamper.com/.
I am sorry you are having this problem, I hope this helps.
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I second the Happy Camper Michael good job
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This is just an observation from someone who does not have the problem for those that do have the problem
If the bugs are coming from campground sewers then the obvious first step is to not connect to the source of bugs. Then to dump the tank determine the top speed of the flying bugs and dump at speeds greater than that speed. That way they cannot fly fast enough to catch your speeding dump outlet.
I would possibly consider dumping when driving at highspeeds down the interstate, and use that as a method to discourage tailgaters. It might be best to do this when your toad is not attached.
Is that not a great idea???????
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I believe there is a bridge in Chicago with a suitable grate just for that very purpose. 🙂
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Ha!! Ha!!
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Randall,
Congrats on the new Liberty Coach! Beautiful paint design!
Mark
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Chip,
Do the poo FIRST! Do the gray second. The gray helps “clean out” your sewer line and possibly makes your sewer line less of an “attraction” (and I use that word loosely in this context!) which may convince them little buggers to stay in the septic tank, not fly or swim upstream into your coach.
Time to “Bug Out” from this conversation.
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thanks for the advice. I do dump the black first, when it is full. The grey fills up faster and needs dumping a lot more than the black. That’s what I meant by dumping the grey first. For now I am leaving the black alone as it only is 1/4 full.
Ill also lookup happy camper and see about their product. my fix for now is still working. No bugs for the last few days. I have a reservation to move away from our current spot in April. I’ll be farther away from the collection point and hopefully farther away from the bug nests. I also shall meet with the campground staff to see if they would treat the sewer lines with a bug bomb to help neutralize the pests.
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Thank you sir!! I’m really excited to pick it up next Thursday!!!
Happy Day!!!
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In my dinosaur Liberty, I found a bypass ball valve under my Wabasto. The valve if turned 13/16 of a turn will direct the exhaust of the Wabasto into my single holding tank. This antiquated system insenerates these pesky flies. Although a little soot slick is left in my toilet, and a few bubbles of diesel smoke slips through.
I have switched over to K-1 Kerosene in my coach, the ole DD likes it and it stinks up the coach less when those stray bubbles slip through the pot. The $50 per gallon is a little rough though. Plus I put the Liberty rose scented fuel additive in the fuel tank with every fuel up. (Thanks Mr.Mark for the tip) Gosh.. The old girl smells so good at 70 MPH!!One Day Late….
Steve
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