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  • Prevost selling questions

    Posted by Thomas on September 2, 2014 at 6:41 pm

    I have had my coach for sale on this site since feb. I have only been contacted twice in that time. I have been trying to make sense of it and have finally decided to ask some questions to the thread. I think my coach is a very nice coach and in good condition and appropriately priced based on my research, but of course that is my opinion. So to not be getting any activity does not make sense to me. So maybe yall could comment about the year or model or price etc. of what you may think may be an issue I need to address. For example no one may like my make/model, or maybe I’m wrong about the price/value, or maybe some issue I’m not aware of. My ad is for the 2001 Featherlite Vantare for sale by owner. I am aware of the age and that concern.

    gary replied 11 years, 11 months ago 11 Members · 19 Replies
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  • AL

    Member
    September 2, 2014 at 8:28 pm

    Sure looks like a fine coach worthy of a phone call and an eyeball inspection. The price is not out of line as to thwart an offer.

    The one thing I feel could be improved upon is your presentation. Your slide show did not perform for me and the second picture option was also inactive. Your third option was viewable with too much mouse clicking and back button. This all might just be on my end, meaning my computer, but perhaps others find the same situation. You also could use more pictures with close ups.

    The other possibility is you are on the second page of ads.

    Just because you think you are asking a fair price doesen’t mean it will sell for that. You have tried to sell at your price long enough to know no one wants to buy at that price. Mark it down and move it.

    Don’t forget the cost of ownership is not on your side.

    Nice coach, good luck, JIM

  • Larry & Diane

    Member
    September 2, 2014 at 8:32 pm

    I’am not an expert by any means. I will make a couple of comments based on what I see on your ad.

    What does ” great condition” mean ? I assume you refer to great condition with age being the factor.

    Next point and this is a big one…… Where are the maintenance records ?

    I have owned 2 high end RV’s in both cases records were one key point in the sale. What ever you tell the buyer has to be

    backed up. Lots of detail about the bus, tire age, battery, upgrades, repairs, major components replaced during the

    time you have owned it. You have to convince the buyer your bus is the best on the market.

    Would you consider a trade ? This doesn’t mean you’re committing to taking a trade but maybe you would consider.

    While watching a TV program the other night, Airplane Repo, without the planes records the value is 1/2 as much.

    That’s a pretty big hit on value. Without them the planes history is just BS. We have many pilots on PC and there is

    probably good reason for the exact records.

    Both Pete and re-Pete have posted pretty clear about “Serviced at Prevost” means pretty much nothing has been

    done other then oil and filter changes. I know you do not say in your ad and using that example what has repair shop history been/

    Last thing, lots of detail pictures. I know there are some picture limits on PC. Having another 25 ready to ship to a

    buyer sparks some interest and that’s how the sale starts.

  • Archived

    Member
    September 2, 2014 at 8:57 pm

    Any XLII would be better if it had Delam mention when advertised because especially with the informed information on this site it becomes a defined potential issue. Just look at the 2001 that just went thru eBay, it was being sold by a dealer who would not sell it through the dealership. XLII that have Delam rivet repair sell right off. 3 recently if I remember within days.

    When referring to “New” it would be much better to put dates. I have seen new that are years old.

    Pictures of the entry / driver area. Front TV layout. Overhead driver area.

    4 Roof Airs, might not be best A/C option, OTR or cruise air might be more sought after.

    Delam determination on a XL is big for me. When I purchase, if in that year range which is where I will be, I do not want to purchase a potential issue of that magnitude as a newbie.

  • Archived

    Member
    September 2, 2014 at 9:16 pm

    First,
    there are no limitations on pictures here on PC, you can put up a 100
    if you want. I think the present pictures look great, I use the
    scroll option and not the slide-show, but that’s just my preference.
    The price seems to be inline, so I’ll make a few comments Thomas.

    There
    is no mention of tires or whether the 365 conversion has been done.
    It has the manual patio awning, a plus as far as I’m concerned, but most want the auto awnings and there is no OTR. I hate to
    bring this up, but if it was inspected at Prevost for delam and none
    found, that would be a big plus. If it has been garaged, that’s
    another selling point. Detailed maintenace records is a big one as Al pointed out.

    It’s
    a nice Vantare and I hope someone comes along soon..

  • Tradewinds Coach & Marine

    Member
    September 2, 2014 at 9:24 pm

    I think all the advice is on track. I bought my coach out of state and for me the devil was in the details. The more information and history you have for the coach the better. I still see coaches for sale that were available when I started looking 2 years ago. You coach looks nice and seems reasonably price but more detail will make it stand out for potential buyers. A broker with the right reputation might also prove worth the price. Lack of delam issues would be of great interest !


    Tradewinds Coach
    Kyle Bennett (Service)
    Brian Miller (Sales)
  • John

    Member
    September 2, 2014 at 9:45 pm

    I agree. I think the coach looks great. When I bought my Vantare the seller had a 15 page build sheet available for me to download. This gave me lots of detail to look at and to whet my appetite and build anticipation! If you have a build sheet I’d suggest scanning it into a pdf and putting it on your website. The other thing to do is what you’re doing right now. You’re drawing attention to your coach. Why not post a thread or bump a thread once in a while giving us more detail on your coach. Many times the buyer is right here on PC. By all means, have Prevost inspect the skin, then bump the thread again with the good news! Good luck! She’s a beaut!

  • Mike

    Member
    September 2, 2014 at 9:58 pm

    we have a customer that just sold his 2000 Featherlite non slide XLII with 130k miles for 165. I think you’re right on with your price, just need to find the right buyer

  • Archived

    Member
    September 2, 2014 at 11:04 pm

    For what it is worth, when I sold our Newmar Ventana several years ago, I created an in-depth description and added 75 photos to the listing. I did all this after I had researched the market to make sure my price was going to be the lowest. I guaranteed that everything would be working and if something was found to be defective, I would reduce my price by the cost of the repair. Furthermore, I offered to pay the air fare if a buyer was to come from out of state. A couple from Kansas flew in, checked the RV for several hours, handed me the money and drove off.

    I sold the RV for the same money I had bought it for 2 years earlier. In a nutshell, honesty and details, details, details and photos, photos, photos.

  • Andy

    Member
    September 3, 2014 at 7:02 am

    The more I look at your coach, the more I like it. Why you are not getting activity doesn’t make sense.

    I don’t see the pricing out of line. The interior is very attractive and the coach does not have any features or colors that are out of line.

    Based on posts we do see that buyers do want slides, they mention the cantilevered awnings as on the wish list (such as the Girards and late model ZipDee), and concerns might be the maintenance history or the delam issue. If I was looking for a nice coach I would have to include that in my search.

    One thing seriously working against your coach is the age makes it tough for a buyer who needs to finance it because it is hard to get loans on older coaches.

  • Richard

    Member
    September 3, 2014 at 11:00 am

    Nice coach. I like the lack of slides, manual awnings and the pre-EPA S60 engine. We’d have definitely considered it when we were looking. Biggest concern would be potential delamination. That would be my first question to you.

  • Tradewinds Coach & Marine

    Member
    September 3, 2014 at 12:59 pm

    The background pictures scream sticks and staples dealer to me. The first thought is a dealer got in over his head. Plus the age and lack of info such as air bag replaced? They are on borrowed time if over 10 yrs old. Could last 15 but you know the coach is almost there. Low miles is not necessarly a plus? When was antifreeze changed? Just examples of Gray areas. How many owners? Why? Beautiful coach in appearance. Bob


    Tradewinds Coach
    Kyle Bennett (Service)
    Brian Miller (Sales)
  • Archived

    Member
    September 6, 2014 at 8:39 am

    Look at the add, and say to your self, if I was going to buy this coach, is the add enough to encourage yourself to buy a plane ticket and go see this coach. I would redo the complete text of the add and give it punch. Talk up all the positive details. Give more specific details, not just general details. Search the web and see every 1999-2002 XL & XLii and view there adds, see what your compitition is saying and looks like, yes you are competing with xl’s. After you have seen your competition, then create an add that that will set your coach apart from the rest, and price your coach agreesively. Right now and until nov-jan coaches are moving slower. After jan you will see more buyers than right now. You need to spend the money and place the same add on all the major websites. PC is nice, but not enough. It will cost you 800-1000 for the adds, but that is what you have to do if you are serious about selling. Also, use ebay it may not necessarily sell it, but will give you several contacts. Selling a coach is a numbers game, and you have to increase your odds.

  • Fred

    Member
    September 6, 2014 at 10:18 am

    Thomas, I think Greg is probably spot on. Good pictures presented in an order that makes sense(as one would walk through and around a bus) and clear consise text that explains exactly what condition and how the bus has been maintained is paramount. We recently sold a 2000 XLV non-slide CC for top dollar in 48 hrs by doing exactly that. Dumb luck ? Maybe…..but I like to think that we just advertised it properly so that any potential buyer was not going to waste an airplane ticket. Geo

  • Andy

    Member
    September 6, 2014 at 10:44 am

    about advertising. The unanswered question to ask now is WHERE?

    Perhaps, PC, as an added value feature could add a tab about “How to sell your coach” with pointers as to what a seller should do to be successful and on which sites, in addition to PC, a seller should consider advertising a coach. I do not think this would cut into PC revenues but would be very helpful to those, who wish to try for themselves.

    It may also be worthwhile, to add an additional tab about “What a buyer should look for when considering the purchase of a Prevost coach”.

    By having such a tab, Jon would not have to repeat his advice ad nauseum … 🙂 … write it up once, put in on the tab. Done.

    Furthermore, at his age, Jon would not have to go back to his prior posts every time, to verify what his suggestions were the last time!

    🙂

    Cheers,

    Ronald

  • Archived

    Member
    September 6, 2014 at 11:29 am

    I have sold a number of coaches, this is my last one and I listed on PC, RVonline and did a run on e-bay. E-bay is a great source to get your bus in front of lots of people, the deals usually happen after the listing.

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