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Very diplomatic from the Leader A1.
We use to have a lot of fun on here with the banter between converter owners.
Me on the other hand I wouldn’t own a Liberty if it was the last company left. All for reasons not mentioned above.
I’ll give you 3 things you might want to consider in that era coach. Liberty does not have a jump start for the chassis batteries, aux air is not isolated and no backup water pump. That’s just a tid bit. But folks still buy em and that is fine but the biggest thing the Marathon doesn’t have is the most important feature on a Liberty.
The oversize entrance door to get their ego in.
Later
bv
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Atta boy Bernie! I was waiting and you finally got to it. EGO
Jon, I was trying to type ERGO, but autocorrect kept changing it to EGO :o)
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I’m hunckered down here at ORI Indio and there is a very nice looking 2000 Marathon for sale . I here it is very nice and the owner is asking 160k I believe . If interested let me know and I will go over and get his number for you . Tex me as I’m not always on line .
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Sorry to see a Marathon owner revealing his jealousy. But we Liberty owners are used to it.
I believe the Marathon mantra is quantity, and the Liberty mantra is quality.
Your turn Bernie………..
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Yes when you build the best you don’t worry about the rest. We actually have engineers, you have Frank.
Libertys best features, bus air and cruise airs.
The King of Obsolete.
Come on A1 , you can do better than that. I’m holding back.
Later
bv
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Actually so am I because I know of and have seen the list of dumb ass ideas from converters, ours included and revisiting this subject does little good because the converters don’t listen and we get what we get.
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Bernie, what the hell is wrong with a Liberty, oh I forgot the leaking aluminum holdings tanks and the cruise air filter needing the refrigerator removed to clean it.
Hang on this is going to be good….
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OK, Tom, you and I have got this started, now we can just sit back and giggle.
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Al. The coach in question at ORI indio is 0587. It’s down the street from our place. 2000 XL 45 with OTR. Ted Lewis 541-601-5501. Price change. $157,500
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Eegadz… the fur is flying…
Thanks for the info on the Marathon in Indio. I’ve actually looked at and drove that coach. Came close to jumping on it but the wife didn’t “love” it.
I am surprised how many XL’s I’ve seen with the “oil can” effect. My buddy Nick, who has been building entertainer coaches for over 20 years, says it’s from the heat of over polishing and that only a few polishers that he knows of, do it correctly and don’t warp the skins. I’ve looked at a lot of coaches over the past few months and the contrast is surprising. Some, like mine, show zero signs of oil can and some are quite extreme. I’ve never polished out my coach because I like the nickel look. I know this has been discussed before just throwing in Nick’s perspective.
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Loocho, add a signature to your Profile. Blue button “Profile”.
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Oil canning due to polishing? Maybe.
As metal heats, it expands. As it cools it contracts. Concentrate the heat in one spot and it is a safe bet the metal will warp or buckle.
Unless a polisher is completely unaware of how much heat he is building and lets the buffer or pad sit in one spot greatly heating up a small section I am not sure polishing can get the blame, or at least all of it. During a day in the southwest it is not unreasonable to have the skin on a coach near freezing in the morning, and by mid day if the sun has been shining on the skin all day up to that point to have the skin so hot it has been warped, bubbled, and oil canned between the rivets.
The XLII has no noise due to heating, but our 97 XL and the 87 XL prior to it made a racket as the skins heated and cooled.
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