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Failed Adhesion on XLII
Posted by Carl abd Denise on April 2, 2012 at 3:03 pm2002 just talked to Prevost so shocked 25,000 t0 50,000 to fix. Not under warranty but we know of two other 2001 that was covered by their warranty. I have owned seven prevost and this was a shock with the past experience we have had with Prevost. I think I will just put vinyl siding on it.
Davy replied 14 years, 1 month ago 9 Members · 18 Replies -
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Yes. I think there is a thread on this already in the Chassis forum here . You did not indicate what year you have, but contact Prevost and talk to them. I have a 2006 chassis that had several edges that were delaminating. I got it fixed by Prevost TN and they did an great job on it. My coach was still under warranty so I paid nothing for the repair.
You will have to talk to Prevost directly to find out what they will do for you. Good luck.
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I moved your thread here for Prevost to review and take a look at the thread marked “Skin.”
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Thank goodness for rivets and H’s hope you get this resolved seems its a bigger problem than any one thought!
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BUSNWINGS:
Don’t feel alone!!! Our 2001 has the same problem and even discussed it at length with an Executive at Prevost in person. He said they knew about the problems but…..not covered under any warranty. Hmmm????
Sandy
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We have a 1991 xl mirage and have been kicking around an updated year, but I seen one down Houston Tx. way a couple months ago and didn’t look to good. It looked like the sides were peeling loose. Is that what the problem is? If so, I think we will stick with my rivet sides. My coach only has about 58,000 miles on her anyway. What year did they start laminating the sides?
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Prevost model year 2000, most likely titled by a converter as a 2001 was the first year with no rivets.
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Thanks Jon for the reply. Are most having problems and is it fixable? I have seen some of the costs to fix at Prevost and man i think I would just put screws in that 1/2 millon dollar bus.
glen
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I don’t believe the problem is as widespread as might be believed. I now own a coach that had that problem, had it corrected and I am so confident it is not a widespread problem, and that once repaired it is not going to reoccur that I bought the coach.
Only Prevost, on a coach by coach basis can determine the extent of the problem, the cost to repair and if the owner has to share or absorb the cost. Every service center can do the evluation and the decision as to responsibility lies with Prevost Canada and involves many factors.
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How come there are no replies from “Prevost” on this matter? Or am I not seeing them here?
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Diane and all,
Prevost is not ignoring this problem or this thread. Tom and I have been in communication with Prevost and we know this topic is high on their priority list. As soon as Prevost has an answer to everyone’s questions it is going to be posted here. Please keep in mind there have been a lot of comments made about this issue, but the source(s) of those comments may not be authorized to speak on behalf of Prevost and might not be completely correct.
Please be patient. What will be posted here will be accurate.
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I’m sure it will Jon..
I wanted to add a question for Prevost since no one seems to know the answer and that is lots are wondering how the panels are attached on the “H” busses some wonder if they too are just held on by glue…. I don’t think that would be possible given the size and weight of the larger panels… must be hidden clips or chanels or snaps of some kind ?
I have read everything I could find on Prevost car for the exterior, construction, repairs etc., but couldn’t find anything on that.
I don’t have a problem… just curious… along with the others?
Would love to hear how they are attached.
Thank-you Prevost !
Diane
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Larry, I don’t know how the panels on a H3 are held on but would think they are held on by adhesives. Composite siding has been held on by adhesive for quite some time in the RV industry with success. Composite material doesn’t likely face the same challenges as metal. Adhesives can be made that chemically bond to composites and composite siding doesn’t flex or shrink and expand like metal.
Gil
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The side panels of the H series vehicle are also glued in place since the late 1990s. The process uses a similar adhesive as on the XL2 shells. In fact the side panels of the H series coaches and shells were the first to be glued and we used a lot less rivets at the same time. There were some small delaminations along the top of the long side panel usually just under the front side windows. When found the loose areas were cleaned and re-adhered and we put a coupld of stainless rivets there also to make sure that we did not have them become loose again.
The H side panels have not had the issues that some of the XL2 shells have had.
I hope that this answers your question.
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