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  • Dick

    Member
    January 22, 2019 at 7:35 am

    Dash cam, dash cam, dash cam.

    As cheap as they are they become the best and cheapest defense against a law suit from someone who wants you to pay for their stupidity.

  • Archived

    Member
    January 22, 2019 at 8:21 am

    ,Okay, it’s fess up time For me I guess.

    I definitely believe in the dash cam and I have one of the better ones. However, in my being a day late leaving due to the magnitude of the job of “getting it together” after it being so long since traveling in the bus, I completely forgot about the dash cam. I neglected to turn it on.

    What’s a checklist?

    All I can say is “Live and Learn”.

    I highly recommend creating, and using, a checklist. I lived by one my entire career. You may fail it, but it will never fail you.

    Thank goodness that in this case there were no questions where the answer needed proof.

  • Tim

    Member
    January 22, 2019 at 11:05 am

    Best to wire dash cam so that it goes on with the ignition. Geo.

  • Loc

    Member
    January 22, 2019 at 12:40 pm

    Exactly what Geo said.

    In the steer compartment Prevost provides 12V key on and always on terminals and 24V key on and always on terminals.

    On mine I added a 4 receptacle cigar lighter in the steer compartment powered by the 12V Key on post and have my Pressure Pro, GPS, and two dash cams plugged into it. Yes two dash cams so I have backup and with each being 170 degree width of viewing, one is biased slightly left and the other slightly right so I have the widest field of vision possible.

    The GPS is a convenience but the dash cams and Pressure Pro are essential so I never want to forget to power them up.

    Amen to the checklist, and prior to a trip I spend a couple of hours doing a very detailed check of the coach and house systems. Once on a trip the pre-trip inspections are minimal but the vitals are always included such as tire pressures, fluid levels, belts, etc.

  • Per

    Member
    January 22, 2019 at 5:04 pm

    I’m fortunate enough with my vintage to have the master dash switch for the chassis, so I can leave the camera on at night if need be without the key on. I did the same as Jon using the 12v source in the steering bay that’s on/off with the master switch.

  • Archived

    Member
    January 22, 2019 at 10:10 pm

    Very good information! Thanks.

  • John

    Member
    January 23, 2019 at 7:30 am

    John, at Lakeland we can show you the “key on” 12V post and then you can set yours up so you do not have to manually turn the cam on and off.

  • Archived

    Member
    January 23, 2019 at 9:27 am

    Thanks.

    I’ll have the power wire routed to the compartment in advance.

  • Harry

    Member
    January 24, 2019 at 1:43 pm

    Ouch, Ouch, Ouch! That could have been so much worse. She should be very thankful that you did everything right! Very good job.

    I plug my dash cam in a 12 volt that runs from house batteries and stays on 24/7. I like it being on when I am parked too.

    You guys know I am not an agitator, I have an honest question. Theorectically how would an H fare in a similar accident?

    Davy

  • Harry

    Member
    January 26, 2019 at 10:26 am

    That thought has crossed my mind also.

  • Archived

    Member
    January 26, 2019 at 10:43 am

    Based on John’s description of how the accident unfolded I doubt if it would have had different results., First, I think we can assume both vehicles were traveling in the same direction at approximately the same speed.

    When the car rear end came in contact with the front of the bus its direction of travel, while approximately parallel to John’s bus had a sideways component as it was changing lanes. The result was instead of pointing in the direction of travel it rotated counter clockwise about 90 degrees and we all know tires don’t roll sideways so Johns bus became the power source to keep the car going in the same general direction at about the same speed so except for the forces now holding the car against John’s front bumper because he was pushing it there just was not a lot of energy to do damage whether it was an XL or H3 structurally. I suspect the H3 plastic bumper trim would get trashed,

  • Chas

    Member
    January 26, 2019 at 11:52 am

    I suspect the H3 plastic bumper trim would get trashed.

    Kinda like Jon ‘s Corvette’s front end.

  • Archived

    Member
    January 26, 2019 at 2:14 pm

    I think Jon is correct. I don’t think structurally there is much difference. I do think that the H3 would have been more complex and expensive to actually repair in that it would, for example, require a whole front bumper rather than just the end 90 degree bend and it would require more paint work. I suspect that the repair estimate will be pretty healthy, but I think that the H3 would probably be more and would need to be done fairly quickly due to being very obviously damaged whereas the XL damage almost has to be pointed out to noticed.

    In short I think that the H3 is more comparable to a Limo and the XL more to a tank.

  • John

    Member
    January 26, 2019 at 2:17 pm

    Kind of like Fred’s front bumper, which on my XLII is also some thin metal and a bunch of plastic.

    All cars and now buses they need to quit calling them bumpers because they are decorative. If they are fake maybe call them falsies?

  • Archived

    Member
    January 26, 2019 at 6:19 pm

    Hey Fred, ask him about his previous new Corvette and the jack boo boo just for fun.

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