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XLII and loose panels
After our extensive driving mileage coach shopping (3300 miles) we steered away from XLII’s that had not had the official Prevost Rivet Kit patch panel repair. XLII’s seem to be commanding good money even without “patch panel” remedy. Knowing what we all know about loose stainless skins, why would anyone buy an XLII without the Rivet Kit. Sellers we ran into aren’t uninterested in discounting selling price taking Rivet Kit into consideration. My questions is, why would anyone knowingly buy an XLII.
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They like the colors?????
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They have a stainless steel fetish?
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FWIW, I have an XLII that was completely reskinned as a result of delamination. The repair process apparently took place just before Prevost started using the rivet repairs. I have owned the coach for almost 8 years and there is no indication of any loose panels.
Since I always hand wash and dry my coach I would know pretty quickly if I had a delamination issue, but so far no signs of any panels loose at all.
I would definitely have any potential XLII or X3 purchase inspected by Prevost prior to purchase however.
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Because they haven’t done there homework and don’t know?
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Slides!
Many more XLII’s built with slides than XL’s with slides.
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Jon is certainly the expert, however it is my understanding that not all XL-ll’s had a problem. If one has not been repaired, then a good inspection from Prevost and you would be good to go.
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They are uninformed or just overwhelmed with the wow factor, only to potentially have a 40K problem. Any year could have a delam issue and a buyer not insisting on a Prevost delam inspection is rolling the dice.
Like Jon, I’ve been there, so speaking from experience.
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I do not believe that anyone knows why some coaches had de-lam issues, and why others had none. But I do know for certain anyone contemplating and XLII or X3 would be prudent if they made certain any purchase was subject to an inspection by Prevost.
The issue was not exclusive to any specific model years, whether the coach had slides or not, or anything else that would point to a pattern or potential cause.
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You wonder if anybody has had it inspected by Prevost and a while later delam?? Would they cover it??
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Except for newer coaches and some exceptional conditions Prevost is unlikely to provide the repairs (except paint) at their expense.
They stepped up and provided expensive repairs to owners, some who had a previous repair at no cost to the owner except for the cost of any necessary paint rework. But they were clear in that they would not repair older coaches at their expense, or coaches that had a “history” which I think was an abusive past or one that might have been previously worked on by other than Prevost.
During that period when Prevost was doing a lot of gratis repair work it was well publicized that the coach had to be inspected at a service center, and if repairs were indicated the decision to do the repairs as a gesture of good will was made in Canada. I imagine the process to determine if a coach is eligible for Prevost paid repairs is still valid. Purchasers of older coaches with skin delamination, especially those older than a certain age (10 years at one time) are at risk of facing tens of thousands of dollars of costs to repair the problem.
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You’re correct in the cost, Jon. Mira !Loma quoted us &27,000 for the rivet kit repair utilizing all existing panels. To re-skin a Bus worse case scenario was $42,000 plus of course paint. It also doesn’t help things when a “seller” claims the panel delam is a scam as we were told by one entity after we factored in the panel fix cost in our offer to buy
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Whoever claims skin delamination was a scam should be named because it appears likely they are not above lying to make a sale.
It was not a universal problem affecting every coach so a potential buyer should not walk away from a coach that does not have the vertical strips over the panel joints. Some coaches never had an issue.
But all buyers, unless shown a recent Prevost inspection report, should be wary and get the inspection.
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Wouldn’t buy one that didn’t have work done cause who’s to say when it will happen, even if Prevost pressure checked and say it’s good to go. . My coach has always, since day one, been housed/sheltered when not it use. The first 18 years in climate control. If they/Prevost used the same glue and procedure to stick panels on coach and coach has been out of the weather and sun, who’s to say it won’t happen after leaving it out in the climate to bake and freeze. Of course most folks that drop a quarter to half mill or better, what’s another 30 or 40 grand.
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