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Cablemaster Cord Reel
Hi Guys….
Can someone tell me whether the cablemaster in Liberty’s are 12 or 24 Volt… at this point I am assuming it’s 24 volt since the fuse is 15 amps… I think our Vantare had a 30 amp fuse being the motor was 12 Volt.
The games begin in the morning trying to troubleshoot it…Going to have to remove the Kohler radiator to even begin… pretty frustrating to say the least. Ben sent me some info from Cablemaster that I have printed.
Thanks in advance for anything you think might help.
Cheers, Diane
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24 volt, also to drain gen rad, there are two drains under the coach….
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Thanks Jeff !!
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I was looking at the location in my coach and it didn’t take long to see that the radiator must be removed or tilted to get access,take a few pictures if you can.
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I am at Jeff’s getting my CableMaster fixed. The gearbox failed on mine and got everything jammed up. There is a repair kit being overnighted in and a new motor and cable are already here.
Radiator already out.
Cable guide and Cablemaster unit.
Unit and storage bucket.
Tom or Jon: Please turn these so the are the right orientation. For some reason, they uploaded sideways
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We ran all the diagnostic tests today and found the motor to be not working… called Cablemaster and Charlie told us that they do just go out for no specific reason… our motor was stamped 2003… new motor will be here in the morning so hoping that is the answer !!
Removing the Radiator was a a PIA but was the ONLY way to get access.. I am still worried that “something else” may have caused the motor to die…. but then remembering the fuse blew a couple of years ago may have been the beginning of a slow death.. who knows !! Will keep you posted.
Cheers, Diane
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I am curious. My old “Classic” 1990 XL conversion by Linden coach out of California does not have a separate radiator for my 17.5 KW generator. My generator is hooked directly into the bus radiator cooling tower. I have never had a generator cooling problem even on the hottest days and I never need to open my generator bay for additional cooling. This configuration seems like such a good idea I am curious why no other converters ever adopted this idea ( at least none that I know of).
I don’t know exactly how it works. But I do know that when I am running the generator, even if I am parked and have my coach battery switches turned off (both 12V and 24V) I hear the bus radiator cooling fan cycling on and off and it keeps my generator running very cool. It has never even started to get hot to my knowledge.
An an added benefit to this configuration is extra cargo space normally required for a generator radiator. If anyone knows why this was discontinued or never adopted by other converters I would be interested in your opinion. Reading about all of these radiator removals by PC members just made me curious, and greatfull, that at least I am spared this one possible problem.
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I have heard of converters sharing the engine exhaust with the generator (I think some Hoffman Coaches were set up that way) but not the generator and engine sharing the radiator.
Cooling the engine, particularly the 8V92 was always a challenge and required good cooling system maintenance. The engine driven fan was said to draw about 30 HP to do the cooling, and to reduce the loss of power and mileage Prevost made radiator shutters available.
Your post suggests your radiator has electric fans because an engine driven fan is not going to help when you are not running the engine. On Series 60 coaches the fans are engine driven, but their operation is controlled via DDEC and a two speed clutch. I don’t know how the radiator would get cooled without a fan and changing the fan on the later model coaches to provide for engine off cooling would be a challenge.
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thanks Jon. That clears it up some. The non engine driven fans must have been part of the conversion process.
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Relative to the engine even the largest generators are only 1/10 the horsepower or less so for generator cooling only it will not require much air flow.
I can’t figure a downside to sharing the radiator, especially since the engine cooling system is already shared, although it is to use the heat, not get rid of it. Today’s engines are running 200 degrees or more however and none of my generators exceeded 180 degrees so that might pose a problem.
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UPDATE !!
Today was a GOOD day… New motor arrived at UPS station at 90am and was in the bus and everything buttoned up and working perfectly by 12 noon…. so nice to see the cord rolling in !!
Turned out to not be such a terrbile ordeal after all…. just time consuming getting it all out but easy to put it back together again !!
Mission accomplished !! Thanks for the input !!
Cheers, Diane
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Where you get all that energy girl ?
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Corey & George….
ActuallyI haven’t had much energy lately due to a few health issues… but anything that’s not right drives me nuts and once I get started with the right help I am really good at giving orders so with the help of a good mechanic and a good elecctrician ( they work for us full time) and my instructions things normally go pretty well as long as I get good info for them and with the PC forum how could I NOT have the best help ??? Now I know you can see me sitting right in front of the project giving orders !! Thank God my guys like me & I treat them very well !!
I thank PC and members everyday for making these things a reality !!!
Cheers… Diane
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