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Question anyone hall a Harley in bay 1 or2 of an h
Anyone hall a Harley in bay 1 or 2 of an h
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21 Replies
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I have seen a small golf cart in one so i guess it may be possible…but what kinda Harely? Sportster or a bagger?
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I’ve seen it in an H.
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In September, I saw an H3 coming into Jeff’s as I was pulling out. He had what looked like a Road King (or could have been a soft tail classic) in the first bay. Had removed the wind screen and rotated the handle bars down and rolled it in. Looked a little tight, but was straight up and down in there. Was impressed…
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I presume anyone considering doing that considers the weight, and has the coach weighed to make sure there is ample reserve between steer axle rating, and the weight without the Harley.
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I would like to hall a road king. Looking for info on loading and ramp mechanism thanks Jim
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Thanks I call Jeff
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thanks Jon I have 365’s and no slides
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My H was originally set up to haul a Harley in Bay 1. It had a ramp, tie downs, and a remote controlled winch to pull the bike in. It has since been changed to the normal slide out tray. I also had a friend who hauled a Road King in his H. It was also a Vantare with a slide.
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Jerry do you still have the ramp and set up and would you like to sell it.Or do you know where I can get it or who makes it thanks Jim
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Jim,
I don’t, the ramp and winch were removed by the previous owner. I did see a picture, the ramp was made out of aluminum channel. The winch was a small ATV type winch mounted on the floor on the driver side just to the side of where the front tire fit into a “Pingel” brand, motorcycle removeable wheel chock. If I can find the picture, I’ll post later.
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Thank you Jerry
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Blue Ox makes a cycle loader that might work. You can google it and see it operate loading a bike into a pickup bed.
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I hope anyone contemplating heavily loading a coach (on any axle) that the deciding factor is not the size or weight rating of the tire.
The limitation is the axle weight rating. There are a lot of coaches that now have 365 tires on the steer axle for example, but the axle weight limits are those specified by Prevost, and which are engraved on the data plate that lists the VIN.
Our axle weight limits are determined by the engineers based on a lot of factors, not only the obvious ones such as tire or wheel limits, but the brakes, bearings, air bags, and most importantly the structure. Over the years Prevost has increased the steer axle weight limits. With the introduction of the X3 the limit now is 19,000 pounds and still buyers have been asking for more. To put all that is involved in establishing limits in perspective the Prevost engineers determined the steer axle limits can be increased to 20,000 pounds, but to do so they will need to add 1,000 pounds to the structure. That of course will wipe out the gain in the rating, but it demonstrates there is a lot more than just changing a tire or beefing up a wheel bearing.
Can you get away with exceeding the limits? Probably because for decades Prevost owners have been doing just that. But as soon as you exceed the limits you become the “test pilot”. On the other end of the coach we have proof that exceeding the hitch limits, usually by hanging a motorcycle on the rear, or towing a trailer with a heavy tongue weight has consequences. The result has been some coaches now have structural cracks on the engine cradle or frame structure. The same may end up happening with the front structure or components. It is not likely there will be any consequences when the coach is sitting still. It may take more time to raise the front to drive height. It may even require the lifting of the tag axle to help raise the front. The real problem is when certain bumps in the road are hit. The type of bumps we all have experienced that compress the front suspension and may even bottom out the driver’s seat. The forces applied to the front structure in that case are very high, and excess weight just increases the potential for damage.
If you can put a Harley or a crate of anvils in the front bay without exceeding the coach axle limitations, by all means go ahead and do it. It will make your use of the coach more enjoyable and allows you to bring your Harley or anvils in a protected area where they are not exposed to the elements. But don’t do it if the axle is going to be overloaded.
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I could easily put a Hog in the 2nd bay of my H, but no way to stay within the steer axle gross weight rating. I’m at gross steer axle weight right from Marathon with just a few hundred pounts of usable weight.
Aslo, those that consider changing out carpet to tile, you better weigh the steer axle first, you may be shocked.
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Thanks Jon for the info on front axel my take in coach shows 20 k front axel limit it had a weight of 17165 with full water and 3/4 fuel when at jeffs on hoist thanks Jim
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