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Converters standards
looking at various coaches and trying to evaluate the conversation of one to another
Not wanting to start a degrading of of one to the other just wanting to get opinions of the difference of one conversation to another.
this is not a thread asking for downgrade of one to the other.
looking for positive comments
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Let’s begin any discussion by saying clearly every single converter, current or former has almost always produced a high quality, robust, reliable conversion.
Let’s also understand there is not a single perfect conversion because every one has features and attributes ideal for some owners, yet not so ideal for others.
You are going to find brand loyalty. You are going to find differences between conversions that make them more like what some customers want, and yet others find the same conversions not to their liking.
Some are known by their converter’s “signatures” such as their paint jobs, floor plans or accessories.
We all have praised our own conversions, and have trashed others because ball breaking is a great way to have fun on forums, but in the hundreds of thousands of posts I have seen over decades I have never seen a post by someone who has trashed a conversion such that the intent was to talk folks out of ever buying that conversion.
I can bore people to death bragging about my Liberty coaches, but I can also use a lot of bandwidth telling about things I see that need improvement or lacking. I am certain other owners of different can do the same.
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Still trying to get opinions to the differences of the converters
of Prevost, New owner of two weeks and still in shop getting routine maintenance updated.
I have looked at numerous ads for coaches and am wishing to get some conservation on the differences.
This is not an attempt to discredit one converter to the other but trying to understand what one does the other doesn’t. I hope my new ownership makes me want to continue and do another purchase so please give me info not criticism.
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They all do the same thing. Every conversion provides living space with lighting, running water, heat and A/C. They have TVs, sound systems, refrigerators, microwaves, toilets, holding tanks, cook tops, and sinks.
The differences are slight. Some have more batteries for the house or converter portion. Some use Cruiseairs, some use roof airs. Some have Prevost over the road A/C, some use a converter installed over the road A/C.
Some have interiors finished in laminates, some in wood, some in a combination of both.
Some coaches have one slide, some two or more, some none. Some have a bath and a half, some only a single bath.
What specifically are you looking for in an answer? Everything mentioned above and more are differences to be found in conversions, and yet as different as they all can be, at the end of the day they all accomplish the same thing. As coaches get newer technology changes, the style and colors are different, but we as customers still end up with more or less the same thing.
The same can be said for the Prevost chassis. They all have wheels and an engine and a transmission. But over the years they grew to 45 feet, added slides, changed engines and transmissions, etc. but the chassis still accomplished the same thing regardless of if it was a 1990 or a 2020.
If you want a coach with OTR buy a Liberty. If you want roof airs instead of Cruiseairs, buy a Royale. If you want a super paint finish and design, buy a CC. If you prefer a lot of house batteries, consider a Vantare. If you want a Joey Bed that goes in and out with the press of a button, consider a Marathon.
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Gmjdw,
Back in 2014 when we were looking to purchase our first Prevost, I found this site and a couple of others to learn about them.
In comparing the top three current converters (Liberty, Marathon and Millennium), it was obvious that they put things in different places.
I was at Prevost Goodlettsville in summer of 2017 for service and met a guy with a new 2016 Marathon (3 slide with bunks). This was his first Prevost too.
At the time that we were looking, Liberty put their generator radiator in a separate bay mid-way back on the driver’s side, Marathon put theirs in the front behind the grill and Millennium put theirs on the roof. Liberty has now switched to an Onan that has the radiator built-in the unit.
Comparing our Liberty to that fella’s Marathon, his Webasto heater was in the engine bay on the passenger side, ours is located above the rear wheels on the driver’s side. We have four inverters he has two. We have 3 lithium house batteries, the Marathons have multiple AGM batteries.
We have a manual sewer hose, he has an automatic ‘pop-out’ hose. Liberty’s have ONE holding tank for black and grey with a grey water bypass valve. All the others have separate black and grey tanks.
Some converters use/used Aqua-Hot for heating water and coach heat.
Like Jon said, they all accomplish the same goal, just differently.
Safe travels,
Mark
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I would ask what year coach are you looking for . Do you plan to dry camp often . Do you want slides. Do you like the newest gadgets or would you prefer simple . Then how much do you want to spend .
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I can tell you how we decided. Never owned an RV before, got interested in early 2018 and decided we wanted a Prevost. Learned all I could about XL, XLII, H3 models. Learned the specifics regarding OTR A/C, Cruisairs, roof airs etc. Most of this info came from Jon’s writeups over the years (thank you Jon for that).
Due to HOA restrictions our storage bldg. had 12′ limit on wall height. I built it to store a Peterbilt (among other things) so door height, truss height etc was all 12′. Not only was I looking for the lowest exterior height (eliminated H3’s), I figured on having to lower the bus and leave it that way once inside – so determined a solid front axle would be best for that. Also wanted Series 60. And OTR A/C. Didn’t want to risk the roof height of roof airs and/or depend on only Cruisairs while traveling in the heat. So I had pretty much limited myself to a 94-96 chassis to get Series 60 and solid frt axle.
Took some months – probably got lucky only that long – to come across one with an exterior/interior we absolutely loved.
Everyone’s reasons for what they want/like/don’t want/like are all different. When we found “The One”, we didn’t hesitate at all.
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